R.I.P. Steve McNair, a true warrior of the game has left us.

[MrBean]

McNair was found murdered today :sad:

[MADDOX626]

Let this be a lesson to everyone. If your going to cheat on your wife, make sure your mistress does not own a gun.

[Mark B.]

It's like this guy was reading my mind.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9777174/Don't-be-so-quick-to-make-McNair-a-hero

[MrBean]

So having an extra-marital affair, not to mention know one knows if they had an open relationship to start.... is enough to negate every bit of charity work and all the work he did on the field as a pro athlete?

McNair was never a stay at home father, but he did have at least one of his sons on the sidelines of every Titans game I ever saw.

[Hockeyfan]

Not the type of role model I want for my kids. I don't care if he personally handed each handicapped kid a set of crutches and gave them a grand each. Sorry your image and legacy is tarnished forever.

[MrBean]

Not the type of role model I want for my kids. I don't care if he personally handed each handicapped kid a set of crutches and gave them a grand each. Sorry your image and legacy is tarnished forever.

Well, I never want my kids to look at pro athletes as a role model period, that's mine and my wife's jobs.

[silviomossa]

So having an extra-marital affair, not to mention know one knows if they had an open relationship to start.... is enough to negate every bit of charity work and all the work he did on the field as a pro athlete?

I agree. If we want to define people by their worst fault, then everyone would look like bums. Expand the lens.

[Hockeyfan]

Lmao.

[North Country Dad]

Tough call. He was a louse for having an affair, but his death makes it look much worse, because now his sons lost their dad and forever have to deal with the fact that their dad's cheating led to such a tragedy.

If he was caught cheating and got a divorce, most of us wouldn't have such a huge problem with it. But because he was dating an unstable woman with a gun, we suddenly want to cruxify him. I have a feeling he was just as surprised by the ending as we are.

[Hockeyfan]

If he was caught cheating and got a divorce, most of us wouldn't have such a huge problem with it. But because he was dating an unstable woman with a gun, we suddenly want to cruxify him. I have a feeling he was just as surprised by the ending as we are.

I still don't like that he cheated. May as well cheat the game too. As for dating an unstable woman with a gun. He was dating an unstable woman who purchased a gun only a few days before committing the murder. Perhaps he was ending the relationship and this was going to be the final he-raw.

Who knows. Would you forgive Obama if he was caught cheating?

[North Country Dad]

I still don't like that he cheated. May as well cheat the game too. As for dating an unstable woman with a gun. He was dating an unstable woman who purchased a gun only a few days before committing the murder. Perhaps he was ending the relationship and this was going to be the final he-raw.

Who knows. Would you forgive Obama if he was caught cheating?

I'm not forgiving McNair, I'm just saying it would be back-page news if it was just an affair and a divorce. McNair made a mistake, but he didn't pull the trigger.

And what does Obama have to do with it?

[Cubfan]

So a married man was sticking his d*ck in another women. Big deal. He was playing with fire and got burned. Sounds like he was leading a double life - a car in his girlfriends and his name, a condo on the side.

Speaking of presidents, didnt Clinton do the same? And in the White House no less? Point is, who cares. They got some ass on the side and got busted.

[Mark B.]

And what does Obama have to do with it?

+1.

I think what really bothered the reporter was that it was not like a fling or a trip up but an ongoing relationship. The neighbors thought they were living together.

[Hockeyfan]

And what does Obama have to do with it?

Just wanted to see if you would see that. All in fun. I guess it was that "other" guy that Mark mentioned. Can't keep track of all these politicians now-adays getting busted for this sort of thing. Look at the rep in SC. They want his @ss on a stick. Even fellow republicans. I hardly think this sort of thing is back-page news. If your in a prominent position in society and you get busted you are going to pay the price. I don't feel bad for him at all. He should have manned up and got a divorce first if he was that unhappy or unfulfilled.

Panthers could have picked him in 95 I think.

[MADDOX626]

They got some ass on the side and got busted.

No he got some ass on the side and got capped.

[Hockeyfan]

No he got some ass on the side and got capped.

:icon_lol:

[silviomossa]

So a married man was sticking his d*ck in another women. Big deal.

Yup. It's usually a private matter (except for press-conference-a-day guys like Mark Sanford), and if it was a problem it was between him and his wife -- and it may not have been a problem to her, of course. I'm not a McNair fan, but I can admire people's accomplishments in certain facets of their lives without giving the thumbs-up to all that they did behind closed doors.

[silviomossa]

I just came across a better article:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/31781257/ns/sports-nfl/

Particularly the paragraph: "Any pedestal McNair fell from is not one that he climbed himself. It was one that we — the media, the fans, his employers and the NFL — put him on."

[Hockeyfan]

Lame. That can be said for anyone in the public eye.

[Mark B.]

Particularly the paragraph: "Any pedestal McNair fell from is not one that he climbed himself. It was one that we — the media, the fans, his employers and the NFL — put him on."

That was the point of my article. This guy was no hero. Why do people go aout of their way to make him one?

[MrBean]

That was the point of my article. This guy was no hero. Why do people go aout of their way to make him one?

I don't think anyone has made him out to be a hero. But just looking back at the things he did during his career. He was a damn good QB and also a good humanitarian.

Did he save orphans from a burning building? No. He played a professional sport and played well at his position. He had a tragic death, in many ways, so people are looking back at what he did.

[Hockeyfan]

So she killed him because he had ANOTHER somethin-somethin on the side? Wow.

[silviomossa]

That was the point of my article. This guy was no hero. Why do people go aout of their way to make him one?

I don't know -- I've not read anywhere that he was one, just that he did some good things in life. He might've been a "hero" to those that he helped, but outside of that..... I've just read the type of general kind things that people usually focus on at a time of death. The highlight reel, as it were.

[CTDon]

That line is funny as hell, NCD. :icon_lol:

Like y'all said, it's just newsworthy because of the way it ended.

I have a feeling he was just as surprised by the ending as we are.