NFL Playoffs 12'

[Patrickz]

Steelers got Te-bowed! Great throw and catch in OT! I like a guy who prays in public and shows a passion for his faith. :icon_cool: I hopped on the bandwagon and I see Hockey is already on it.....:icon_razz:

[Hockeyfan]

Steelers got Te-bowed! Great throw and catch in OT! I like a guy who prays in public and shows a passion for his faith. :icon_cool: I hopped on the bandwagon and I see Hockey is already on it.....:icon_razz:

I'm like most other NFL players and people who re not a big fan of his over the top faith. Not the faith itself, but the flaunting of it. I do like him though. He's positive, and although not the most talented, finds a way to get it done. Good kid too. He beat an okay team, but he faces a real QB next game. I don't think it will go so well. I was cheering him along with my wife. Not a Steelers fan. :icon_lol:

I'm pulling for New Orleans. That's where my money is.

[Mark B.]

I hopped on the bandwagon and I see Hockey is already on it.....:icon_razz:

I noticed that HF jumped on that band wagon too. How long before he has the NY Rangers emblem as his Avatar? Woulds love to see Tebow knock of the Pats next week. Currently respectively rooting for the Giants to keep the wife happy. They good also. Should be a good weekend of football next weekend.

[Hockeyfan]

I noticed that HF jumped on that band wagon too. How long before he has the NY Rangers emblem as his Avatar? Woulds love to see Tebow knock of the Pats next week. Currently respectively rooting for the Giants to keep the wife happy. They good also. Should be a good weekend of football next weekend.

Giants? FAIL. I'm on the T-wagon only for FTM's sake. Wanted the Steelers to get beat down. My team is NO. :chugchug: otherwise would like to see the Giants lose among others. Just want to see some enjoyable games. Do like John Fox though.

[Don-Dad]

I'll take Tebow's over the top faith over the constant show boating most nfl players do. Make a 10 yard catch and act like they've won the game, now that's over the top. One of the receivers for Pittsburgh did some stupid first down ball drop, even when they were down by 13 points, it's just plain stupid.

[Neodaddy]

Can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Tebow fan these days, it seems. Wait a minute, I'll check it out. Heeeeere kitty kitty.

[Hockeyfan]

I'll take Tebow's over the top faith over the constant show boating most nfl players do. Make a 10 yard catch and act like they've won the game, now that's over the top. One of the receivers for Pittsburgh did some stupid first down ball drop, even when they were down by 13 points, it's just plain stupid.

:icon_lol: totally agree. I hate that too. Then again Tebowing is a Worldwide phenomenon and he does it 599999301 times a game. Even when hoping for the other team to miss a FG. It's god's will. It don't matter if you are Tebowing or not....does it? :icon_lol:

I've seem a few even more blown out than 13 where the guy does a TD dance, for something like making a tackle. Idiotic.

[Patrickz]

Is it Saturday yet! All good games this weekend. Notice how all the fifth and sixth seeds lost last weekend. The home field advantage really held true and wonder when that happened last.

[Hockeyfan]

Is it Saturday yet! All good games this weekend. Notice how all the fifth and sixth seeds lost last weekend. The home field advantage really held true and wonder when that happened last.

Gotta love how Denver at 8-8 got home field. LOL. Is what it is. Pittsburgh took them lightly and defensively blew it. They had some injuries and the RB being out didn't help things on the offensive side of the ball. See that hit by El Cheapo? Ouch!

[One-Third]

Gotta love how Denver at 8-8 got home field. LOL. Is what it is. Pittsburgh took them lightly and defensively blew it. They had some injuries and the RB being out didn't help things on the offensive side of the ball. See that hit by El Cheapo? Ouch!

Best part about it (if my memory serves me correctly) is that Denver was only 3-5 at home all year!

Been a fan of Tebow since he played at UF - not because of faith, but because he competes... on every play. No giving up. Gotta love that.

That said, here's hoping the Pats end Tebow's season en route to inevitably losing to the Baltimore Browns... sigh.

[silviomossa]

There aren't too many QBs (Tebow) who enter the playoffs with a backup ready to come in (Quinn) in the very possible event that he sucks. With good reason.

The real problem with him (not his fault) is that he gets WAY too much attention, especially given that he isn't even the main reason they have won those close games. A 3rd string, 5th round rookie (Yates) won a playoff game this weekend too, and he didn't get 2% of the attention that Tebow got.

Oh well, it will all end for him this weekend.

[Hockeyfan]

Yates was a good QB out of Carolina. He has a good team around him too. Some big injuries as well. Nobody gets the attention of Tebow. I love it. Their kicker won most of those games, although Tebow made things happen in the final minutes. Oh and don't forget their defense.

[Cubfan]

GO BAMA!

Oh come on now HF, you're a BAMA fan now too??

[Mark B.]

Oh come on now HF, you're a BAMA fan now too??

:icon_lol: What a friggen tool he is.

[Hockeyfan]

oh come on now hf, you're a bama fan now too??

Roll Tide bitches

[feedthemachine]

Gotta love how Denver at 8-8 got home field. LOL. Is what it is. Pittsburgh took them lightly and defensively blew it. They had some injuries and the RB being out didn't help things on the offensive side of the ball. See that hit by El Cheapo? Ouch!
This!!,,Their head were already in NE ..

its Tebow Time Now:icon_razz:
Best part about it (if my memory serves me correctly) is that Denver was only 3-5 at home all year!

Been a fan of Tebow since he played at UF - not because of faith, but because he competes... on every play. No giving up. Gotta love that.

That said, here's hoping the Pats end Tebow's season en route to inevitably losing to the Baltimore Browns... sigh.

THIS!! You can't deny his passion for the game

This is just to weird here ...Steelers never had a chance:icon_lol:
Check it out
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/tebow-time-the-three-316-references-boffo-tv-ratings-and-lady-gaga-love;_ylt=AkyozI10yz2W1aPSQjnPDmFDubYF?urn=nfl,wp1 5718

[Hockeyfan]

I read that yesterday. Pretty funny eh. Some will call it divine intervention. I call it coincidence.

[feedthemachine]

I'll take Tebow's over the top faith over the constant show boating most nfl players do. Make a 10 yard catch and act like they've won the game, now that's over the top. One of the receivers for Pittsburgh did some stupid first down ball drop, even when they were down by 13 points, it's just plain stupid.

Missed this ,,I absolutely agree with ALL of it ,,including the Steelers WR..I even brought it up to my wife the instant it happen.."look at this selfish ass"!!
I just hate it ...Tebow is a welcome change IMO

[feedthemachine]

I read that yesterday. Pretty funny eh. Some will call it divine intervention. I call it coincidence.

Well duh,,i don't think god was watching the steelers game,,he's seen em win plenty in the past to be good for awhile .:icon_wink:

[Hockeyfan]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/denver-airport-openly-trolls-steelers-fans-181335546.html

:icon_lol:

[Patrickz]

Did anybody look at the illegal formation by the Broncos that was missed on the final play. They only had six men on the line as the seventh was a yard back. Ack! :icon_lol:

[feedthemachine]

Did anybody look at the illegal formation by the Broncos that was missed on the final play. They only had six men on the line as the seventh was a yard back. Ack! :icon_lol:

Yep,,here it is
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_19706529

O'well ,,kinda like a holding call or non call ,,sometimes the refs just miss some..Happens ALL the time ..no biggie

[Mark B.]

Did anybody look at the illegal formation by the Broncos that was missed on the final play. They only had six men on the line as the seventh was a yard back. Ack! :icon_lol:

I saw a replay of a college basketball game the other day where a team had 6 players on the court and scored the winning basket in the final seconds. Nobody noticed until after the fact.

[Hockeyfan]

I saw a replay of a college basketball game the other day where a team had 6 players on the court and scored the winning basket in the final seconds. Nobody noticed until after the fact.

Yeah that was funny.

[Hockeyfan]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/pittsburgh-mayor-tebows-settle-bet-denver-mayor-223201349.html

:icon_lol:

[Patrickz]

Can't deny the Brady bunch came to play lastnight. Tebow had a good run but Brady was unstoppable even with an early pick. Broncos gave up after the 6th TD pass. WOW

And the other game was really more entertaining with all the lead changes in the late forth Quarter.

Might be a Brady Rogers Superbowl. Or could it be a Harbaugh bowl??
:chugchug:

[feedthemachine]

The officiating is really getting bad!...Even when they go to instant replay they still get it wrong...The NE TD ,,no...The clear fumble in GB ,,no,,a phantom blow to the head on Rodgers,ect..ect ...gimmie a break...
Glad the packers lost ,but i'm sure they had a lot on their minds:sad:
AFC ,well ,i could care less..I'm rooting for an NFC team all the way

[Mark B.]

The officiating is really getting bad!...Even when they go to instant replay they still get it wrong...The NE TD ,,no...The clear fumble in GB ,,no,,a phantom blow to the head on Rodgers,ect..ect ...gimmie a break...
Glad the packers lost ,but i'm sure they had a lot on their minds:sad:
AFC ,well ,i could care less..I'm rooting for an NFC team all the way

I was thinking the same thing about the replays. The NFL should go the the NHL plan. Have some league official view all possible tapes off site and have them make the call. It would saves a lot of time and take pressure off the ref on site.

Bye bye GB! Go back to what ever y'all do with no football. If I remember correctly, had the Giants punted the ball out of bounds last season against the Eagles and won the game as they probably would have having done so, the Packers would not have even made the play offs last year. A year later the Giants give GB the boot. Funny. The wife sure is happy.

[Hockeyfan]

The league office would have the same replays. If there is not indisputable evidence they have to make the call stand. IT is what it is. Sometimes it helps you sometimes it does not. Just cause you know the ball likely came out, if you can't see it on film you can't be sure and cannot change it. The rules are the rules.

[feedthemachine]

Its a fumble hock,,the refs suck ..heres another bad call too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9myrrZTnJ9c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap5tf1Rr8Zo


I could take a whole day and post just from this weekend..Its getting worse ,,not better..Things need to change in the NFL...Full time refs would be a start,,not doctors and lawyers who do it for a part time gig

[Hockeyfan]

That first video is still inconclusive. They can hold a ball in the hand easily. Just cause you see the ball does not mean that he's not holding it. By rule they have to call that down by contact. Am I doubting that it was coming out? No. Not at all. Just like in hockey where a puck is under the goalie's pads or glove and you know that for a fact that puck is in the net, but the video does not show it so they call it no goal. It's the rules. Nothing they can do. Hands are tied.

[Hockeyfan]

The blow to head was a bad call. Just like the many calls that go uncalled for the same thing, but are later sent to the league and result in huge fines. Football is a pretty fast game. Not as fast as hockey, but fast. It's a judgement call. To say they screwed up is just not right. It was close. Looked like he got popped. Just imagine what that looks like in real time. The ref has 0.5 seconds to decide whether to throw a flag. It's not easy. I couldn't do it. When Rodgers hit is head into the other guy is where he ate it. That's why he was banged up. Refs likely didn't even see that. They see the result. Rodgers down holding his head and shaken up. IT's football. Not ballet.

[feedthemachine]

So i guess your the only person(along with the refs) that can't see that as a fumble ..He does not retain control of the ball to the ground.Period.

I know i couldn't call these games either ,and that is my second point..FULL time refs are needed

[Tomcat]

So i guess your the only person(along with the refs) that can't see that as a fumble ..He does not retain control of the ball to the ground.Period.

I know i couldn't call these games either ,and that is my second point..FULL time refs are needed

Easy to see he lost possession of the ball before he was down.

[Hockeyfan]

So i guess your the only person(along with the refs) that can't see that as a fumble ..He does not retain control of the ball to the ground.Period.

I know i couldn't call these games either ,and that is my second point..FULL time refs are needed

It's only till his knee hits the ground. At least in that on. You guys are missing the point. It's likely that the ball is loose, but you don't see it in the clip. You think these refs are just called up from Pop Warner? These were the best refs during the regular season. If you show me a video where you can see it, please do.

[feedthemachine]

Well what vid are you looking at ,,,geesh,,,even the numbnuts at ESPN and The network see it,,including the rest of America:icon_lol:..Also remember it was originally called a fumble ,,so ,,some of them saw it right ,,then they huddle and talk about who knows what????:morons:
Guess you won't be convinced till your boys at PTI clearly point it out for you:icon_razz:..

No the refs aren't pop warner ,,duh,,but they do not do anything NFL related during the spring or summer ,,they are part time gigs for these guys

[Hockeyfan]

Well what vid are you looking at ,,,geesh,,,even the numbnuts at ESPN and The network see it,,including the rest of America:icon_lol:..Also remember it was originally called a fumble ,,so ,,some of them saw it right ,,then they huddle and talk about who knows what????:morons:
Guess you won't be convinced till your boys at PTI clearly point it out for you:icon_razz:..

No the refs aren't pop warner ,,duh,,but they do not do anything NFL related during the spring or summer ,,they are part time gigs for these guys
I love PTI, but really don't agree with alot of what they say. Sometimes, but not always. Sometimes I'm on another planet from they. Especially about fighting in hockey.

[Tomcat]

The NFL is a business. An increbidbly huge business. I lost trust in it long ago.

[Hockeyfan]

The Giants and the Packers are about the same with regards to National popularity. Don't think the NFL cares either way. They are not going to go out and make completely wrong calls to throw a game. If you truly feel they were out to get a certain team it would be done by shorting them on forward progress. More penalty yards from pass INT both defensive and offensive. They could easily have more influence that way. Not on a call that is going to be in the replay booth and in the national spotlight. Silliness. Maybe the ref had a wager on the game. LOL. Either way. Rules are rules and need to be followed. However improbable the outcome was. Rules were in place to make the decision.

[feedthemachine]

The Giants and the Packers are about the same with regards to National popularity. Don't think the NFL cares either way. They are not going to go out and make completely wrong calls to throw a game. If you truly feel they were out to get a certain team it would be done by shorting them on forward progress. More penalty yards from pass INT both defensive and offensive. They could easily have more influence that way. Not on a call that is going to be in the replay booth and in the national spotlight. Silliness. Maybe the ref had a wager on the game. LOL. Either way. Rules are rules and need to be followed. However improbable the outcome was. Rules were in place to make the decision.

You mean like they did in the texans vs ravens game:icon_lol:

Anyway ,i don't believe in the "fixed" games or other conspiracy theories ,,but WTH is going on?
They put replay in to get the calls right ,,they made up these ticky tack rules of hitting here but not here ,,the refs are just as confused as everybody else,and making some wrong decisions it seems...They need to study the game and its rules and changes more than anyone ,and they don't.

[Hockeyfan]

Getting calls right on the field is tough. Replay helps. It's not perfect. It's all about angles and what it shows or don't.

As for hits to the QB. These are the Markee players in the game. The ones fans pay to see. They need to be protected. Too many great players out from cheap hits by Steeler players. You know who. Anyways. It's a fast game. Those calls are hard to make. I don't think they are reviewable either. It looked high, but he didn't hit his head. You're telling me at full speed you could easily see that? And remember you have that one camera angle. The ref isn't sitting in that same spot as the camera. LOL. He could be behind it and have a totally different viewpoint that showed something much different. Just like a whistle in hockey when the ref loses sight of the puck. It sucks when it's still lose, but the rules are the rules . Sometimes they help you sometimes they don't.

[feedthemachine]

Yeah i guess Eli isn't a markee player ,he got mugged

[Kwak]

Sooooo... anybody watch the Pro Bowl this weekend? :eusa_whistle:

[Hockeyfan]

Sooooo... anybody watch the Pro Bowl this weekend? :eusa_whistle:

Uh....what's a Pro-Bowl?

[Kwak]

Uh....what's a Pro-Bowl?

You know what it is. It where the losers go after they've washed out of the NFL playoffs. :eusa_whistle:

[silviomossa]

As a Pats fan, I'm loving this Tebow mess. They are holding a press conference inside a tent on Monday to accommodate the media crush, all for a backup quarterback!

It'll be sad to see Ryan fired after they finish in third behind the Bills. Enjoy the circus while it lasts. :icon_lol:

[Mark B.]

As a Pats fan, I'm loving this Tebow mess. They are holding a press conference inside a tent on Monday to accommodate the media crush, all for a backup quarterback!

It'll be sad to see Ryan fired after they finish in third behind the Bills. Enjoy the circus while it lasts. :icon_lol:

At least they don't cheat! :icon_lol:

[silviomossa]

Or when they do cheat, they are as slick about it as Maxwell Smart.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81225855/

[Mark B.]

Or when they do cheat, they are as slick about it as Maxwell Smart.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81225855/

Quite a stretch but OK, the Jets fired their cheater, have the Pat's fired their's?

It is funny, I wanted no part of Peyton after rumors started about him maybe being a Jet. I will gladly take plan B, although plan B might become plan A if things go too south too fast. In the mean time I will have to suffer in Mets baseball.

[silviomossa]

I don't think that everyone who "cheats" at any level needs to be fired, but the point is that the Jets have cheated many times in their past. Ancient history, though.

The more recent point is that the Pats, Bills, and Dolphins are going to benefit from this latest move. As veteran QB Rich Gannon said yesterday regarding teams *willingingly* inviting a QB controversy into camp, "All I can tell you is that I've never been on a team with a little bit of controversy and it's turned out well."

[CTDon]

Everyone just LOVES to shit on the Jets. If he went to any other team, this wouldn't have been a big deal.

Let me see if I got this right: It was a bad move to acquire an available multi-faceted athlete who can make a difference on OFFENSE. Who cares if he's going to give the incumbant QB a run for his money? Sanchez better straighten up then, if he feels his job is in jeopardy. So now competition is a BAD thing? Do people rag on towns when there is a Home Depot and then Lowe's comes into town? No, they win because they get the best bang for their buck.

This is exactly why I flippin' hate the media and don't watch the news or get caught up in any things that are 'hyped'.

[CTDon]

Oh really? Gannon was involved in his own QB controversy in KC. The next year he was traded to the raiders and that's when he had the best seasons of his career, leading them to the super bowl in '02.

Yeah, that controversy didn't work out well for him. :icon_lol:

As veteran QB Rich Gannon said yesterday regarding teams *willingingly* inviting a QB controversy into camp, "All I can tell you is that I've never been on a team with a little bit of controversy and it's turned out well."

[Mark B.]

but the point is that the Jets have cheated many times in their past. Ancient history, though.

Silvio, that might be the best Hockeyfanish post you ever made. :icon_lol:

There was plenty of turmoil in the Jets locker room right after the season with what Sanchez and others have popped off about.

What I think would be really funny is if Peyton Manning goes down in the first month cashes his check and the Broncos are left holding their pud. I have that scenario as 50/50 to happen.

[Hockeyfan]

Everyone just LOVES to shit on the Jets. If he went to any other team, this wouldn't have been a big deal.

Let me see if I got this right: It was a bad move to acquire an available multi-faceted athlete who can make a difference on OFFENSE. Who cares if he's going to give the incumbant QB a run for his money? Sanchez better straighten up then, if he feels his job is in jeopardy. So now competition is a BAD thing? Do people rag on towns when there is a Home Depot and then Lowe's comes into town? No, they win because they get the best bang for their buck.

This is exactly why I flippin' hate the media and don't watch the news or get caught up in any things that are 'hyped'.

Bang on. Great asset, especially if he turned into a TE and use him in gadget plays and wildcat sets. Comp is good, especially for crapp Sanchez.

[silviomossa]

Oh really? Gannon was involved in his own QB controversy in KC. The next year he was traded to the raiders and that's when he had the best seasons of his career, leading them to the super bowl in '02.

Yeah, that controversy didn't work out well for him. :icon_lol:

Worked for him, but it didn't work out for the team with the controversy. Following that example, perhaps Sanchez will have a great season in 2015 in Seattle or some such place.

[silviomossa]

Let me see if I got this right: It was a bad move to acquire an available multi-faceted athlete who can make a difference on OFFENSE. Who cares if he's going to give the incumbant QB a run for his money? Sanchez better straighten up then, if he feels his job is in jeopardy. So now competition is a BAD thing?

Two things:
1. If Tebow is going to play another position to utilize his athleticism, then that's one thing. But he wasn't willing to do so because he wants to be a QB. He would've been a nice fit as a receiver in Denver.
2. The Jets recently signed Sanchez to an extension, even though they didn't have to, to show a commitment to him. He's signed for five years, just like Manning is. Why didn't the Broncos keep Tebow around for competition since it is such a GOOD thing? Because they aren't stupid.

Now, you'll say that Sanchez is no Manning, and he certainly hasn't been in the past. So why did they extend him if he needs competition to become successful? Because the team is _____________. You can decide.

[silviomossa]

What I think would be really funny is if Peyton Manning goes down in the first month cashes his check and the Broncos are left holding their pud. I have that scenario as 50/50 to happen.

It's certainly possible. He looks good in workouts, but doesn't get hit by 350 pound guys during those things. They'll need a credible backup.

[Mark B.]

It's certainly possible. He looks good in workouts, but doesn't get hit by 350 pound guys during those things. They'll need a credible backup.

If Manning does go down early in the contract by chance I think the fans will be pissed. From everything I have seen they really grew to love the whole Tebow thing. Even Indianapolis bit the PR bullet by not signing Peyton due to his neck injury. They probably know a lot more than most about that injury. Time will tell.

[Hockeyfan]

Now, you'll say that Sanchez is no Manning, and he certainly hasn't been in the past.

Oh dear God. You're kidding right?

What was the guaranteed money of that contract. They can still get rid. Was there a no trade claus in there?

[silviomossa]

If Manning does go down early in the contract by chance I think the fans will be pissed. From everything I have seen they really grew to love the whole Tebow thing.

I think Elway recognized he wasn't the solution. It's a pretty clever, though risky, way to get out from under the Tebow shadow. His fandom is obviously not proportional to his ability.

[Hockeyfan]

I think Elway recognized he wasn't the solution. It's a pretty clever, though risky, way to get out from under the Tebow shadow. His fandom is obviously not proportional to his ability.

This is actually correct.