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Remington
08-11-2004, 09:24 PM
I thought I would post this article. Thought you guys might want to read it.

DIVORCE AS REVOLUTION
By Professor Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D.
July 22, 2004
NewsWithViews.com

For some thirty years now a quiet revolution has been waged throughout the Western world. Most people are now familiar with the social consequences of the divorce explosion: the growth of single-parent homes and massive increase in fatherless children. The Pandora’s box of social problems this has released has also reached general awareness. Virtually every major personal and social pathology can be traced to fatherlessness more than to any other single factor: violent crime, substance abuse, unwed pregnancy, truancy, suicide, and more. Fatherlessness far surpasses both poverty and race as a predictor of social deviance.
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Once the father loses custody, he becomes in many ways an outlaw and subject to plunder by a variety of officials. His contact with his own children becomes criminalised in that he can be arrested if he tries to see them outside of authorised times and places. Unlike anyone else, he can be arrested for running into his children in a public place such as the zoo or church. In the United States fathers are arrested for telephoning their children when they are not authorised or for sending them birthday cards. Fathers are routinely summoned to court and subjected to questioning about their private lives. Their personal papers, bank accounts, and homes must be opened and surrendered to government officials. Anything a father has said to his spouse or children can be used against him in court. His personal habits, movements, conversations, purchases, and his relationship with his own children are all subject to inquiry and control by the court.

Despite prohibitions on incarceration for debt, a father can be jailed without trial for failure to pay not only child support but the fees of lawyers and psychotherapists he has not hired. A judge can summon a legally unimpeachable citizen who is minding his own business and order him to turn over his earnings or go to jail.

As the logic of involuntary divorce plays itself out, divorce is forced on not only one parent but both. Mothers are not only enticed into divorce with financial incentives, in other words; they are being pressured into it by threats against their children. Last year, Heidi Howard was ordered by the Massachusetts Department of Social Services to divorce her husband or lose her children, although authorities acknowledged neither parent had been violent. When she refused, the social workers seized her children and attempted to terminate the couple’s parental rights. Massachusetts News reporter Nev Moore says such cases are common in Massachusetts.

Family law is now criminalising rights as basic as free speech and freedom of the press. In many jurisdictions it is a crime to criticise family court judges or otherwise discuss family law cases publicly. Under the pretext of ‘family privacy’, parents are gagged from publicly disclosing how government officials have seized control of their children. In Australia it is a crime for a litigant to speak publicly concerning family courts, even without mentioning specific cases.

Full Article Here
http://www.newswithviews.com/Baskerville/stephen3.htm

benj
08-11-2004, 10:58 PM
Interesting article Remi...
Why does a woman work ten years to change a man's habits and then complain that he's not the man she married?...
Love...the quest...the marriage...the conquest...the divorce...the inquest...

mjknapp
08-12-2004, 12:31 PM
Interesting article Remi...
Why does a woman work ten years to change a man's habits and then complain that he's not the man she married?...
Love...the quest...the marriage...the conquest...the divorce...the inquest...

That is just a woman's way, they all will do that. But I figure that there are two words to a happy marriage-------"Yes Dear" say that alot, and problems will be minimal.

tt3
08-12-2004, 01:14 PM
That is just a woman's way, they all will do that. But I figure that there are two words to a happy marriage-------"Yes Dear" say that alot, and problems will be minimal.

Mike, you forgot a couple
"You were right, I was wrong"
:lol:

mjknapp
08-12-2004, 02:35 PM
I save those for the days when I know I am going to get into trouble!!

Don-Dad
08-27-2004, 04:32 AM
About 2 years ago, when this forum was just a guestbook, one dad was all bent out of shape an he had good reason to be. He and his wife got divorced and the judge awarded custody of their child to his exwife because the judge indicated that he did not have a job and could not support the child financially with no job. So in his case being a SAHD was a bad thing.

Sorry I did not read the article that Rem linked to yet so maybe I'm off base here but after reading Louis' post it reminded me of that dad I mentioned above. I guess it depends on the judges opinion for each divorce and custody case?

Wait, just happend to check my old archives and found this

What do you call a SAHD in divorce court?

Unemployed.

At least, that's what the judge said. As a matter of fact, I didn't get custody of my daughter because I was her primary caretaker for the first six years of her life. The judge figured that because I didn't have experience working outside of the home AND taking care of my daughter, I shouldn't get custody.


Dan Grubbs post in Jan 2002

tt3
08-27-2004, 01:00 PM
Don, while thats maddening, its kind of predictable. I wonder how they'd rule if roles were reversed... actually, I don't. I pretty much know huh? I think enough of society still sees a SAHD as a liablity rather than a positive. Why they can list a woman as "homemaker" and a man simply as "unemployed" ...

Remington
08-29-2004, 02:14 AM
Exactly! Reverse it. The man is out working and the wife stayed home with the child for 6 years. The judge would say the man was never around and has no experience with the child and the woman would get her baby.

mjknapp
08-30-2004, 08:08 PM
I am embarressed to say Rem that I just now read that entire article, I saw the long post and a few replies, and threw a couple in there myself because I was too pressed for time to read it, but that article is, well I want to curse, but I will curb the urge to do so, crazy, all I can say about it, it is trus, and I am living proof on some of the matters. It is a shame that the current judicial system rules on written laws instead of situations. There are some men who deserve not to see their children or contact them, just because of the nature of those men, but the laws shouldnt be upheld to all men because of these few. I know I am preaching to the choir, but I just tried a new beer that I made and drank 3 of them, and it is giving me liquid courage to spout off about anything...............lol,


Thanks for posting that article Rem, and maybe one day, if more fathers like us speak up, then we might open a few eyes. and more people might realize that we arent all bad as men.

Remington
08-31-2004, 02:47 PM
That's right. I am afraid that the world has flip flopped. Not to sound sexist but women are beginning to control and govern our policies.