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How do you tell between the facing and the backing for sheetrock, or does it matter? I'm working on getting the closet rocked with little bits and bobs and can't tell whats front or back on these remnants.
stretch
08-14-2006, 02:56 AM
I'm working on getting the closet rocked with little bits and bobs.
Is this drug slang? Sorry "man", I'm not "hip" enough to "grok" your "difficulty."
Is this drug slang? Sorry "man", I'm not "hip" enough to "grok" your "difficulty."
:finga:
c'mon now, I'm serious!
:p
For some reason I've got it in my head that it matters which side is out for the sheetrock!
:chin:
jeffus
08-14-2006, 03:00 AM
The backside is darker! Usually.
No pun intended.
Don-Dad
08-14-2006, 03:02 AM
I agree with Jeffus :)
The backside is darker! Usually.
No pun intended.
Argh, I can't tell... I even put the pieces up against the full sheet to try and compare.
Does it matter that greatly for something that'll be covered in mud anyway?
jeffus
08-14-2006, 03:05 AM
Are you color blind?! Come on Man! ;)
What the hell! You gonna cover it with mud & tile and sell the place anyway, so who cares!
Even if I were colorblind it wouldn't affect tonal differences light or dark. Maybe its the beer.
But yeah, we're trying to bust ass to get it done to sell. Floor's done in the new bathroom btw, looks good too, darn it.
jeffus
08-14-2006, 03:10 AM
The front is usually white. The rear is usually brownish cardboard type colored....the back might have some writing on it, maybe....:chin:
jeffus
08-14-2006, 03:11 AM
Oh! There's beer involved! :lol:
You got a 50/50 shot at getting it right! ;)
Yeah, see its both gray unfortunately. Just ever so lightly darker gray on the back. Downright frustrating it is.
Back at it.
Awesome, thanks Louis!
jeffus
08-14-2006, 03:55 AM
With wonderboard, you'd see the fiberglass mesh on the back....:)
Now I know it wasn't the beer, it still looks the same. I'll take a pic and post it. Maybe I'll even take a pic of the piecemeal chunks I put up so you guys can chuckle. ;)
sao95
08-14-2006, 02:55 PM
The backside will sand funny, little more hairy and it'll peel up easier....
KDB.One
08-14-2006, 03:42 PM
The backside will sand funny, little more hairy and it'll peel up easier....
Most backsides are hairy but only peel if your in the sun too long:twisted:
Hockeyfan
08-14-2006, 03:54 PM
There should be a slight groove on one of the sides, which enables you to plaster the joints with joint compound. ---__ Like that, but a smaller angle and sloped.
Weston
08-14-2006, 04:15 PM
If it's IN the closet don't know how much I'd worry about it... but that's just me and you'd have to see some of my projects to understand where I'm coming from :oops:
Yeah Weston, thats where I'm leaning towards.
See, these are parts from the middle of a sheet. If I had an original edge I can tell which is which but...
Frankly, I just screwed them up and am going to finish it. Too much to do and too little time to do it in.
Mark B.
08-14-2006, 06:17 PM
tt3,
There is a great trick for small drywall repair called blow patches. You measure the hole you want to fill (5X5 ie.) you cut a piece of drywall 7X7 and then you score the back (grey) and remove the middle and back paper 1 inch completly around the square. You will be left with a 5X5 core of drywall with a 7X7 finish side of paper attached to it. You then butter up the edges of the hole and then place the blow patch in the hole and press the paper firmly. Then follow up with more spackleing when it dries as needed. This makes for a very strong patch with NO nailing or srewing needed for small patches (less than ft. square). You are also able to use any scrap piece of drywall with out worrying about edges being crimped. You are also able to use different thicknesses of drywall if no studs are involed. This proceedure is used widely in electrical and plumbing repair/upgrade scenarios.
tt3,
There is a great trick for small drywall repair called blow patches. You measure the hole you want to fill (5X5 ie.) you cut a piece of drywall 7X7 and then you score the back (grey) and remove the middle and back paper 1 inch completly around the square. You will be left with a 5X5 core of drywall with a 7X7 finish side of paper attached to it. You then butter up the edges of the hole and then place the blow patch in the hole and press the paper firmly. Then follow up with more spackleing when it dries as needed. This makes for a very strong patch with NO nailing or srewing needed for small patches (less than ft. square). You are also able to use any scrap piece of drywall with out worrying about edges being crimped. You are also able to use different thicknesses of drywall if no studs are involed. This proceedure is used widely in electrical and plumbing repair/upgrade scenarios.
That, quite frankly, is awesome. I've got a whole in my office I need to patch before we go. I'm going to do just that, thanks for that!
Ok, here's some pics
In the closet... we're leaving the back unrocked, we're putting a wood panel along the back so it can be removed and the new owners can access the shower valves.
http://www.treml.org/tandv/pics/basement/closetrock.jpg
and the rock around the office door adjacent to the closet. Yeah, I never got around to finishing the outside of the office.
http://www.treml.org/tandv/pics/basement/officerockaround.jpg
See, the sheetrock is GRAY!
I knew the long edges of a panel is tapered, hung enough rock for that, but its all gray. Bet you can't tell me which pieces were front and which peices were back.
Yeah, I know, I'll get a strip above the door too, don't worry... :roll:
Weston
08-14-2006, 08:15 PM
Looks fine T... and blow patching is a good technique for sure! Always assumed it was called such because of having to cut the holes to "blow" insulation into the wall bays... hope that's why it's called that:)
The uppermoast panel on the right... you missed a screw at the bottom...:hic:
Huh, whaddya know! And now its all mudded over too.
:rolleyes:
If you notice in the bottom pic, my mudpan is in use and I just stopped to snap a pic and post it! :lol:
Its all mudded and now I just wait to clear away for coat two and paint. Yeah, you heard me, coat two and paint. I gotta get this darn thing done to move on to the other projects!
Anyone want a nice traditional, 3+ br, 1.75 bath, nicely fenced with many updates house in Duluth?!? Its going for a bargain! ;)
Patrickz
08-14-2006, 09:17 PM
Anyone want a nice traditional, 3+ br, 1.75 bath, nicely fenced with many updates house in Duluth?!? Its going for a bargain! ;)
You are killing me Tony! Really. I would love to be up their. I married an Asin so no cold for her. :rolleyes:
Mark B.
08-14-2006, 10:23 PM
tt3,
Nice work. Those are bigger pieces than i had thought. Just out of curiosity, how do you get .75 of a bathroom? I have never heard of that. It is usually 1 or .5.
They consider a shower to be .75
As I understand it, at least how the put it up here .25 means a pot to piss in, .5 means a sink to wash your hands when you're done, .75 is a shower and 1 is with a tub.
Thats how they list it up here, anyway.
The + is for the non-legal office in the basement, by the way.
Patrick I understand, though you could try telling her she'd get used to it! ;)
Mark B.
08-14-2006, 11:27 PM
That is a new one to me. I know in the norht east and down south either it's a full bath (shower or tub) or a half bath (crapper sink). The + would be listed as "room for Mom" also. Good luck with the sale by the way.
jeffus
08-15-2006, 03:59 AM
tt3,
There is a great trick for small drywall repair called blow patches. You measure the hole you want to fill (5X5 ie.) you cut a piece of drywall 7X7 and then you score the back (grey) and remove the middle and back paper 1 inch completly around the square. You will be left with a 5X5 core of drywall with a 7X7 finish side of paper attached to it. You then butter up the edges of the hole and then place the blow patch in the hole and press the paper firmly. Then follow up with more spackleing when it dries as needed. This makes for a very strong patch with NO nailing or srewing needed for small patches (less than ft. square). You are also able to use any scrap piece of drywall with out worrying about edges being crimped. You are also able to use different thicknesses of drywall if no studs are involed. This proceedure is used widely in electrical and plumbing repair/upgrade scenarios.
Great Tip! Thanks!
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